tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9218017137310902714.post7082759737165820016..comments2023-10-17T10:17:28.786-04:00Comments on The Exception: It Is Okay to Say "I Don't Know..."The Exceptionhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13758654167029552230noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9218017137310902714.post-35080345388322579182007-06-14T10:58:00.000-04:002007-06-14T10:58:00.000-04:00Eric - it does suck.Teri - I have no doubt that Er...Eric - it does suck.<BR/><BR/>Teri - I have no doubt that Eric would like that. Not sure I could justify bringing in a consultant when part of this company reportedly is IT! <BR/><BR/>(PS, I do love your comments)The Exceptionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13758654167029552230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9218017137310902714.post-31343276604237019662007-06-14T03:29:00.000-04:002007-06-14T03:29:00.000-04:00Maybe you should fly eric out there. :)Maybe you should fly eric out there. :)cathouse terihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02547258612468286876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9218017137310902714.post-11660468300188794002007-06-13T15:31:00.000-04:002007-06-13T15:31:00.000-04:00That sucks. I am sorry to hear that. You can alwa...That sucks. I am sorry to hear that. You can always use and Intranet based one and keep it only internal to your office. Just a thought.Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04695313618635056219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9218017137310902714.post-62675395096337813842007-06-13T15:17:00.000-04:002007-06-13T15:17:00.000-04:00Eric - that would be great except that there are c...Eric - that would be great except that there are company reasons why we can't go to an internet based system. It is probably possible, but there are many hoops between where we are and the ability to do it. We will have to make it work with what we have.The Exceptionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13758654167029552230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9218017137310902714.post-21758414348268234512007-06-13T12:42:00.000-04:002007-06-13T12:42:00.000-04:00You need to switch to SQL and a webbased setup. Y...You need to switch to SQL and a webbased setup. You can do so much more with it.<BR/><BR/>I had a company once you an SQL Database with an MS Access front end. Why would you do that? It was wierd.Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04695313618635056219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9218017137310902714.post-58549027490603431852007-06-13T12:20:00.000-04:002007-06-13T12:20:00.000-04:00Teri - yes, he needed the hours and was charged by...Teri - yes, he needed the hours and was charged by the idea of doing something interesting. He definitely did not want to admit that he couldn't do it given that he was supposedly "the IT guy" for our department. Knowing little to nothing about code or programming, I had no idea that he couldn't do it. I know now to get bids, do a story board, and perhaps have a two person team on such work. But honestly, when you are paying someone that much (honestly THAT much) as an IT guy, they need to know what they are doing.<BR/><BR/>Live and learn, as you said!<BR/> <BR/>Eric - Microsoft Access is what he used because that is all he knows. It is not the best code for this system, as we are discovering, but it is all he knew so it was the code of choice. <BR/><BR/>Princess Banter - I appreciate anyone who will sit down with me and explain the complications or what they can do. I recently heard that a large percentage of government IT projects fail - one of the reasons is because the contractors promise that they can deliver exactly what the government wants, even when they can't. We want to believe that code can be written to have a computer do anything and everything. I am not sure it is possible. <BR/><BR/>Just Run - Time spent, hours lost, and we will, at some point, have a product that works. If this programmer doesn't have the time in the next month, I will simply take it to another department to fix it as they will be able to devote 40 hours a week to it. It is frustrating.The Exceptionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13758654167029552230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9218017137310902714.post-42997945184497205532007-06-13T11:47:00.000-04:002007-06-13T11:47:00.000-04:00Ugh, how incredibly frustrating! I work with a lo...Ugh, how incredibly frustrating! I work with a lot of programmer types and thank goodness, they will say "I don't know." But the people that won't say it always seem to pop up somewhere, if not in the office then in life.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Good luck getting the mess untangled.JustRunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03621925857881380555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9218017137310902714.post-1133815313295505822007-06-13T11:21:00.000-04:002007-06-13T11:21:00.000-04:00From an IT person's point of view, saying "I don't...From an IT person's point of view, saying "I don't know" sometimes may just save your ass :) Not to mention it can also save you hours and hours of unproductive work...Princess Banterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14481130646604985046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9218017137310902714.post-12228373265553020052007-06-13T11:17:00.000-04:002007-06-13T11:17:00.000-04:00I agree with Teri, it would have been suicide for ...I agree with Teri, it would have been suicide for him.<BR/><BR/>If it is a Microsoft program it should not be to hard to fix. Let me guess, either access or excel?<BR/><BR/>Access can be a pain in the ass. I work with it a lot and I HATE it, but it does the job, sometimes!<BR/><BR/>Sorry to hear your program does not work.Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04695313618635056219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9218017137310902714.post-75701866427504063822007-06-13T10:53:00.000-04:002007-06-13T10:53:00.000-04:00So you thought the self-taught guy was going to sa...So you thought the self-taught guy was going to say, "Hey, I am sort of at the end of my abilities here, do you think we could bring in a REAL IT guy to help me?" I think that's called job suicide.<BR/><BR/>Remember, people are out for one thing. Themselves. Not the team, not the company and certainly not you! It was your job to know that he was not up to the task. He would never have admitted it. I know it seemed that he was doing it right. But it is never a good idea to keep a "tinkerer" on hand to do extensive IT work. Loyal hearts are the ones that get fucked.<BR/><BR/>My dad always says, "Teri, I know you love your job and you feel dedicated to the people you work for. But always be looking for something better. Remember, you don't owe allegiance to anyone. Well... except for me... hee hee"<BR/><BR/>He is so right. I have given my heart and soul to people only to have them screw me the first time they come up with something cheaper.<BR/><BR/>Live and learn.cathouse terihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02547258612468286876noreply@blogger.com